Confucius say: Dog who bark up wrong tree, no see root of problem.

 

And people wonder why I don't really bother posting .. uurrggghhh.

 

Some really interesting and helpful info here... @The Dude has gotten info from customers who have used it. That would be the first real sources of information i gather. The prices are much cheaper - there is no denying. I think the real kit might be a safer bet.

 

I think @joffa13 that if you wait until some people in America, Aus and England start to buy the kit first you might get an even better idea. The Asian forum is the most reliable source yet - ie the real customers as you pointed out. Maybe this is their first runs and they are sorting out the problems highlighted in the forums. Maybe not but certainly only time will tell.

 

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Oh wow-check it out, even the packaging is cloned! Found on HF.

 

Figures.

 

Even the bag of parts look clo ned! Seems they are packaged the same to! absolutely incredible detail in cloning..

 

I'll probably be verbally flogged for saying this, but- How do we know those SAB parts aren't made by the same Chinese facility, and that the SAB rejects are sold as ALZRC parts? 90% of everything is made in Asia.... right? It is plausible in the modern marketing schemes, and it happens more frequently than most people care to observe, much less admit.

 

Has SAB come out with a statement, stating that they have nothing to do with this lookalike?

 

American componant, Russian componant.....(Italian componant).......
All made in Asia.

 

The informer must investigate this further ... good point @Beaver. I am off to check it out

 

It's only a hypothetical suggestion. I attempted to Google some information on SAB, but didn't find anything specific on manufacturing or supply line.

 

Ok the cost of the devil 380 is 303 USD dollars. Which is $425.27 Australian Dollars. ZenRC sell a heli for $525.00 Now there needs to be another for delivery so add another $50.00. So there would be about a 50 dollar savings. They better be coming from the same factory!

http://www.cnhobbies.com/item/1027.html

 

If the D380 is simply a clone, either their production/R&d cost is high, or they are cashing in on the desirability of the design. So it seems, regardless of which one you buy, you are going to pay for it either way. I tend to agree with those that would prefer to pay the extra $50 and get the genuine G380.
The D380 in that link is $303 with 6s motor and ESC.
The G380 is going for $395 (average) without motor and ESC, so actual savings is a bit more than $50 if you factor that into the equasion.

 

Oh yes you are right @Beaver! very true I did not see that. depending on the motor you would be looking at another $70 to $150 PLUS the speedy which is another 70 to 290. I dont know the quality of the motor they use or the speedy but even if its low end that's another 140 dollars savings. So you would save about $240 - roughly.

 

I wouldn't go that far, the lower grade motor and ESC are selling for around $50 (USD) based on what I've seen on the Hobby King site. Entire electrics packages with motor, ESC, servos, and FBL can be had for $80 to $100 usd ($89 CopterX site for example). I can't see ALZRC using expensive electrics and cutting into their profit margin.

 

from what I've seen they had an introductory price of around $250 for the first run and upped the price to $280 as your seeing now. They improved a few things in the tail but it's identical in form to the goblin machine. I speculated alzrc was contracted to make the goblin runs and had the molds,cnc etc programs already in place so making small improvements based on feedback of the goblin brand 380 they made the improvements to the alzrc offering you see here now. If Sab had no ip protection in their contract then after the sab order was done alzrc factory could do what they want, and I believe this is why we see a clone with improvements rather than any kind of original design from alzrc. Essentially the sab 380 appears on the back end to have been an limited alzrc made product.

 

Someone on RCG said Goblins were made in Asia, but I have yet to confirm that. As I keep saying... Everyone else contracts their manufacturing out to China (Asia), so who's to say the Bavarians aren't doing the same.

 

Well at the moment the 380 is still the go to bird for me. I cant find much fault with it. IE i dont really want thicker frames because the existing frames take a pounding so its just extra weight. If it is the same well then all is fair in love and war i suppose. But shipping to australia it probably works out only a bit cheaper. I would throw away the electronics so that doesnt add much value to the kit for me. However if the boom was good, i would use it for replacement, the same with the canopy. Other parts would have to prove themselves first - ie belts. When you can put through 500 flights on the same belt with no issues that is a good sign of quality.